Why SpaceX won't propulsively land their Dragon capsule. Not on Earth. Not on Mars.

Damian Sellus
Damian Sellus

Another example of technocratic depravity affecting a mission architecture where lives are already at stake.

2 days ago
High Ground Productions
High Ground Productions

Propulsive landings mean you don't have to replace your heat shields after every flight, like you do with splashdowns. They also save the cost of recovering the capsule and the humans inside it. That should be enough to offset some extra development costs.

2 days ago
DIVORCE THE HORSE
DIVORCE THE HORSE

My only question is, why is SpaceX screwing around with rockets when the Government has large black flying triangles, which travel at incredible speeds using a different type of energy?

8 days ago
Minton Barry
Minton Barry

it would flip.on reentry.

9 days ago
Dariyoush Shiri
Dariyoush Shiri

Wear usual clothes please.

14 days ago
Everyday Astronaut
Everyday Astronaut

I do these days.

14 days ago
Owen S.
Owen S.

They know that works.

19 days ago
Owen S.
Owen S.

They busy building a larger Mars lander.

19 days ago
ROCROCROC1
ROCROCROC1

Do you really think Musk has given up on this idea? This is the benchmark concept that separates SpaceX thinking from NASA. One of those last Dragon capsules will land on it's belly if not it's legs. I would not be at all surprised to see it resurrected for appropriate moon missions. Musk has already demonstrated the technology and proven similar technology on the Falcon 9 and soon the BFR.

21 day ago
fakhrul islam
fakhrul islam

1:03 - 1:16 WTF????

Month ago
obi_dank_kenobi
obi_dank_kenobi

Elon musk is cool. He’s a big role model but is clearly just a human being like every single one of us. He isn’t great at public speaking and it makes him a little more human and a good person that we can relate to

Month ago
Baldwin xu
Baldwin xu

i love the code name for the BFR, THE BIG F***ING ROCKET!!! and the BIG F###ING SHIP. (i feel so alone because everyone is talking how this channel is growing and i am just here flailing around... oh and ps. i love this channel) (my spelling is horrible, donut judge pruuurees)

Month ago
Murlock2000
Murlock2000

mate - loose the cap, you look redicilous :P But nice video.

Month ago
Saba Kupreishvili
Saba Kupreishvili

End the pumpkin

Month ago
Saba Kupreishvili
Saba Kupreishvili

Of course

Month ago
Unnar Ari
Unnar Ari

Came here from Mind and Machine podcast, Great stuff!

Month ago
AWP SKIN Counter Strike Global Offensive
AWP SKIN Counter Strike Global Offensive

LOL THAT DRAGON HACTHED XD

Month ago
DSS 72
DSS 72

Any update on the Dream Chaser?

Month ago
ChrisBrengel
ChrisBrengel

You rock! These are such awesome videos! SpaceX, NASA and other organizations should have an appropriate number of their employees become Patreon supporters every time you do a video about them!

Month ago
RonArgyle2011
RonArgyle2011

If they cant land their gear here on earth, I recon you should strike out landing anywhere else too! Definitely!

Month ago
Riley Bell
Riley Bell

Conclusion: it'll cost them too much time and money to get the propulsive landing approved through regulations

Month ago
dr. Namisky
dr. Namisky

because BFR!

Month ago
Jemand in den Tiefen des Internets
Jemand in den Tiefen des Internets

Found you in my recommendations. Instant sub.

Month ago
Chris Gari
Chris Gari

ITS STILL SEPTEMBER 16?? HOW DIS VID ON SEPT 20?

2 months ago
Flight Sim Joe
Flight Sim Joe

Everyday Astronaut Lmao

Month ago
Everyday Astronaut
Everyday Astronaut

2017 😂

2 months ago
Dink Fryson
Dink Fryson

But I'm sure the Dragon can land and take off on the moon with ease, won't even need the heat shield, it can go up to moon orbit to a moon space station and ferry them down to the moon base

2 months ago
That Guy
That Guy

I'm so excited about this

2 months ago
Mad Calm
Mad Calm

Anyway the propulsive landing has no alternatives in case of landing on atmosphrereless planets-asteroids so its' definetely on the 1st prioprity to polish

2 months ago
Ultralagger R.E.V
Ultralagger R.E.V

1:03 this is the funniest and cutest part of the video about Dragon 😂😂😂

3 months ago
M31
M31

safer to land with chutes

3 months ago
SparksKid
SparksKid

1,000th Comment

3 months ago
Axis Games
Axis Games

Great vid

3 months ago
400km Periapsis
400km Periapsis

I'm little..

3 months ago
Arthur Brock
Arthur Brock

The sunken cost fallacy

3 months ago
Adam Lane
Adam Lane

I don't see a huge loss when you have to deal with hydrazine after a landing. Will the cargo configuration get an update as well?

4 months ago
SoLongSidekick
SoLongSidekick

Might want to clarify exactly what the hell you're talking about at 8:45. Why would it be pointless?

4 months ago
SoLongSidekick
SoLongSidekick

Everyday Astronaut Thanks for the answer, but I mostly posted that as a tip. Love your videos man, keep up the great work.

4 months ago
Everyday Astronaut
Everyday Astronaut

The Falcon 5 would’ve been absolutely pointless compared to the falcon 9. There’s nothing it could do that the 9 couldn’t do, including be any cheaper 🤷‍♂️

4 months ago
Marcus Chan
Marcus Chan

But what about the MOON

4 months ago
xzabath1
xzabath1

Your head is crooked.

4 months ago
Jojisvacation
Jojisvacation

I have been asking the same question, thanks for answering it.

4 months ago
Raymond Heath
Raymond Heath

I didn't think the Dragon had enough fuel to propulsively land without a parachute assist

4 months ago
Just Looking
Just Looking

they came up with the BFR

4 months ago
Joaquin Roldan
Joaquin Roldan

i will like to see spacex launching they own shuttle...

4 months ago
Michael Z
Michael Z

Honestly it never woudlve worked. Dragon needs parachutes for the launch escape systrm

5 months ago
Everyday Astronaut
Everyday Astronaut

They never intended to strip it of parachutes. Just not use them when not necessary.

5 months ago
Paolo Carfora
Paolo Carfora

Can you palese explain (or make a video about It) why NASA still not use Dragon v2 to send asteonauts to the space station? If i'm not mistaking they shoul have sent a crew in May 2018 but still don't. Thanks

5 months ago
Everyday Astronaut
Everyday Astronaut

That video is coming soon. I’ll be doing an update on commercial crew this summer 👍

5 months ago
galloping goose
galloping goose

Another reason for the cancellation might be that spacex has no access to the deep space communications network.

5 months ago
Edwin Robert
Edwin Robert

You look exactly like my uncle, he's a professor in California. Great explanation, thanks!

5 months ago
Johan Smith
Johan Smith

... Because parachutes are more efficient, simpler and generally make perfect sense.... Being a tech rebel is not always a good idea. Different isn't necessarily better.

5 months ago
clavo
clavo

Nice music Tim. So why didn't you opine about prospective "alternative arrival techniques" on Mars? I'm thinking some kind of variation on auto-gyro controlled landing. Even more far-out would be a carbon fiber space tether made of that new graphene stuff. Lastly, balloons that deflate on impact similar to the two stage rover balloon ball landing, but without the bouncing.

5 months ago
Schrader
Schrader

SpaceX is like the IT guy coming to you, updating your Windows 98 to Windows 10.

5 months ago
Day R
Day R

I would have loved a Dragon capsule droneship landing

6 months ago
levi ackerman
levi ackerman

Why does Elon keep saying uh, uh, uh

6 months ago
jdnelms62
jdnelms62

This video was made eight months ago and recently Blue Origin has successfully landed their Shepard capsule using a clever mix of parachute and short burst propulsion to slow the landing to a slight bump for ground landings. I would be curious if SpaceX now might try something similar since in Elon's own words, they have the equipment in place? On that note, I would love to see a video comparison of the SpaceX Dragon, NASA's Orion and Blue Origin's Shepard system. Yes, it might be comparing apples to oranges to bananas, but I think folks would love to see your comparison.

6 months ago
A Person
A Person

Honestly, I don't care how they do it. I just want to see people on mars someday.

6 months ago
Scott Johnson
Scott Johnson

Not initially.

6 months ago
Solaphar
Solaphar

Every member of Congress should be required to listen to that 30-second section between 9:46 - 10:16. "But SpaceX changing their mind and being nimble enough to shift resources is what separates them from a more traditional aerospace entity. We've seen the opposite be true with vehicles like the space shuttle and SLS, where an idea is continually pursued despite it not being the most viable option. Instead NASA, or should I say Congress, falls into the same old fallacy of being so far along in something, 'It'd be a shame to stop it now,' which in the long run costs so much more than just pivoting and moving on as soon as you can." I have to agree with this sentiment. Too often it is felt that a project is too invested into to back out of it, even with exorbitant cost overruns. Undoubtedly, countless defense items in the budget fall under this category. Moreover, a lot of that is pork barrel stuff, unfortunately, which means it's especially difficult to solve as it's likely some senior congressperson's pet project. But who knows, maybe enough complaints to our Congress members can change things so they'll reduce the wasting of tax money.

6 months ago
Brian W
Brian W

Landing a human rated craft on the surface of Mars is tough. I saw a documentary explaining why they used a sky crane for the Mars rover. It was the only thing they could work out to land a one ton craft. They have not figured a way to land 20-50 tons on Mars, not even close.

6 months ago
Figment One
Figment One

I would love to sit down with any of these guys to talk about ideas i have on landing on mars or any other planet with a low gravity or a thin atmosphere . Course im sure i am 1 of a million that has ideas

6 months ago
Tony Johnson
Tony Johnson

Question : Why does the rocket twist as soon as it starts to take off ? I just noticed this recently.

6 months ago
Lvl99 Weebtrash
Lvl99 Weebtrash

They were just casually launching little capsules into LOE and then Elon was bored so he launched his tesla roadster to mars

6 months ago
Shawn Elliott
Shawn Elliott

The Dragon Capsule doesn't need landing gear for Earth missions. As long as it has those side-mounted rockets for flight control, and a good GPS signal, it could touch-down in a specially-made pond filled with distilled water to minimize the post-landing cleanup. SpaceX has already proven it can target an area that small with a much bigger rocket booster, so landing a Dragon Capsule in an artificial freshwater pond should be a piece of cake.

6 months ago
Roderick Molasar
Roderick Molasar

Great stuff. Dense with information and useful observations.

7 months ago
801_its_me_108 MCPE
801_its_me_108 MCPE

elon knows da wae

7 months ago
Fabian Dong
Fabian Dong

wtf why do i see a german titel

7 months ago
Everyday Astronaut
Everyday Astronaut

Based on your region... are you in Germany? I have my content translated (titles included) for a good number of languages

7 months ago
NorthernChev
NorthernChev

Consider this... If SpaceX contracts with NASA to take humans to the ISS then I would understand the government requiring the Dragon to be human certified. But nobody owns Mars and SpaceX is a private corporation... I suppose the government could interfere and say "if you want to launch from US soil, then the Dragon must be human certified". But it is my opinion that to land on Mars they don't need any government's permission or approval for anything they do to land humans on Mars and there is no governing body to tell them how they MUST do it. Obviously, it is in the passengers best interest for the Dragon Capsule to be human certified but it should not be required to go to a place like Mars that has no government, IMO. What do you think?

7 months ago
NorthernChev
NorthernChev

What's the deeply cut trench up the side of the Dragon Capsule for (3:22)?

7 months ago
eRCaGuy
eRCaGuy

Definitely one of the most well-done and researched videos I've ever seen on space launch; great job! And to all the world: what he says at 10:00 ~ 10:30 or so about NASA and Congress and the Space Shuttle going on and on down the wrong road instead of quickly pivoting when they first find out is SO TRUE! Thanks goodness for private industry like SpaceX NOT falling into that foolish trap! Thanks, Elon!

7 months ago
Skatterbrain
Skatterbrain

YOU & THE TITLE OF THIS VIDEO ARE COMPLETELY WRONG !!! Space X will do propulsive Landings and also continue to work on doing so . As Elon sas Stated many times it's the 21st century and this is the way that Capsules & Space craft should land . Weather it's on Earth or on Mars . Not to mention there IS NO OTHER METHOD of being able to land on the surface of Mars ( there's is no water on Mars for the capsule or craft to land on on Mars ) it's all rock sold & under the surface aside from the Glacier lakes that reside inside craters. Not to mention you can't land a capsule on Mars with just a parachute, The density of the Atmosphere on Mars is much much Thinner then here on earth with creates much less drag on the capsule apon entering the Atmosphere of Mars , which means you'd travel much faster when when entering the Atmosphere of Mars then you would on earth so you wouldn't be able to slow down enough with using just a parachute alone . Elon & Space X have already successful launched, landed and relaunched the boosters engines of Falcon 9 & Falcon Heavy by utilizing propulsive Landings . Granted the first Cargo Capsule Launched too the ISS was landed using a water landing . Dragon 2 on the other hand WILL land using propulsion. Propulsive Landings of not only the Rockets Boosters but also manned & Unmanned cargo Capsules is extremely important for everything Elon is doing to work . "Why" you ask, Because it Drastically cuts down the cost of sending cargo & crews into space . And will also allow crews that land on Mars or the moon to then land safely and just as easily take off from the surface. So everything space x & Elon are doing hinges around propulsive Landings . The reuse of the heat heat shield, taking off and landing on other surfaces of other planets or moons , the safety of the crew & Cost .

7 months ago
Everyday Astronaut
Everyday Astronaut

Wow. Watch the video. This is specifically talking about the DRAGON capsule which WILL NO LONGER PROPULSIVELY LAND. I even include the clip of Elon saying that himself. This has nothing to do with propulsively landing the Falcon 9, Heavy or BFR... watch the video before writing a book length rebuttal 😂

7 months ago
ecoheliguy
ecoheliguy

With their pinpoint accuracy landing a booster. Maybe they just land the Dragon crew capsule in a body of water at the Cape, a couple initial landings at sea, and then move to a pond at the Cape

7 months ago
Elektrotehnik
Elektrotehnik

7/10

7 months ago
Nonya Damnbusiness
Nonya Damnbusiness

I don't think you made it clear enough. Propulsive landing was too difficult to "man rate" due to the giant pile of red tape NASA would require.

7 months ago
Donnie Montoya
Donnie Montoya

I feel a theme here. SpaceX isn't afraid to change which is ultimately will bring them their success.

8 months ago
Brandon SDA
Brandon SDA

Love this channel! So glad I found it!

8 months ago
Johan Ahremark
Johan Ahremark

They should use both.

8 months ago
Keyboard runner
Keyboard runner

And who is gonna pay for the parallel development? You?

8 months ago
Michael Adkins
Michael Adkins

I really don't expect to see propulsive landing with the Dragon Capsule to leave the playing field ... I expect that it will be proved but like the Falcon Heavy ... to be thoroughly vetted before unveiling. Per Elon, the Facon Heavy was nearly cancelled a number of times but still was realized ... to the tune of at least 21 million views at present. I appreciate the energy of SpaceX in their endeavors!!

8 months ago
Aiden P
Aiden P

@ Everyday Astronaut do you know when the in-flight abort test is?

8 months ago
Keyboard runner
Keyboard runner

https://www.spacexnow.com/

8 months ago
Полиграфович
Полиграфович

this guy sounds like jake roper the vsauce3 guy

8 months ago
Emilio Greenwood
Emilio Greenwood

Maybe they of trying to improve it to make it more effective and more efficient of course they could do a crossover with space shuttle and the dragons capability

8 months ago
Jebediah Kerman
Jebediah Kerman

Wait a minute Even if the Dragon 2 had a mission to Mars How da hec whould it return or get into Orbit 🤔

8 months ago
Jebediah Kerman
Jebediah Kerman

Everyday Astronaut Ooh well I learned something new 😁 So I guess Elons only gonna use it for crew to the ISS and low earth orbit on Earth.

8 months ago
Everyday Astronaut
Everyday Astronaut

It was going to just be a way to land a large payload on the surface. No crew return or anything like that. But potentially send cargo ahead of a crewed mission

8 months ago
Luke Dawson
Luke Dawson

Almost at 100k subs!!!

8 months ago
Ismael
Ismael

video begins at 6:00

8 months ago
Vague
Vague

Drop Ships

8 months ago
GameplayReviewUK
GameplayReviewUK

OMG I had those very same binoculars when I was a kid too :) The little touches make these vids so special.

8 months ago
wade cooper
wade cooper

The repulsive landing will work excellently with the chutes deployed first, except on the moon. There is no reason that this cannot be adapted for safety certification. This may be about spending a lot of money to buy someone else's permission. Like buying a permit to do a crazy unproven thing.

8 months ago
last name ford
last name ford

Killing my dreams

8 months ago
Joseph Zolna
Joseph Zolna

I just love seeing this many people being excited about what SpaceX is doing. To see this happening before my time passes is inspiring in itself.

8 months ago
Philip
Philip

the title is german lol

8 months ago
Philip
Philip

Can i turn it off? It is weird, i dont know if the video is german or not looking at the title.

8 months ago
Everyday Astronaut
Everyday Astronaut

Our community provides translations to native languages. So yes. If you’re in Germany, you’ll see the German translation.

8 months ago
glenn goodale
glenn goodale

thank you for using pounds

8 months ago
Derek Sn
Derek Sn

Well little did he know it happened now

8 months ago
Everyday Astronaut
Everyday Astronaut

Nope. Still hasn’t happened! And won’t. Remember. This is about the DRAGON capsule propulsively landing, not the Falcon 9 or Heavy. Elon’s said over and over (as shown in the video) the dragon capsule will not be propulsively landing

8 months ago
Just a normal account and nothing else
Just a normal account and nothing else

R.I.P. Falcon 9 capsule 2003-2017 we will miss you ;-;

9 months ago
Jerry Love
Jerry Love

Pretty sure what musk is saying is central engines and side gear. Like the falcon. Like the BFR

9 months ago
booger king
booger king

You wanna know why theu cancelled it??? There's no flat concrete landing pad on mars!! Duh!?

9 months ago
Everyday Astronaut
Everyday Astronaut

Actually no... they’ll still be landing a much bigger rocket there...

9 months ago
booger king
booger king

Just wondering... nasa can make their own rockets.. why the hell do they need to contract private companies?

9 months ago
Everyday Astronaut
Everyday Astronaut

NASA does cost plus contracting when they build rockets meaning they hire companies anyway at cost plus the company profits on top of. That’s very inefficient! As a matter of fact NASA has been building the SLS rocket at a cost of 9 billion or more so far and hasn’t even launched once. You could have launched over 100 Falcon Heavys for that cost. I’ll be doing an episode about it.

9 months ago
Lazy Jesus
Lazy Jesus

Supposedly one of the worlds most intelligent entrepreneurs has sent a not as environmentally friendly as we think car to crash on Mars. So humans haven't even got to Mars and already they're spending billions to pollute the planet. Well don't puny humans, well done. "You know it's real cos it looks so fake", this is a quote from the very same so called "intelligent" man Elon Musk. What a moron.

9 months ago
Lazy Jesus
Lazy Jesus

Everyday Astronaut Elon Musk is only a genius to not so smart people in my opinion and regardless of where his now piece of scrap is going it's just another bit of human waste in space, like fly tipping. Humans are not smart at all and I'm afraid there's nothing that can change my mind on that matter, every day, week, month, year that goes by I see human stupidity increase and I find it shameful and embarrassing that such people like Elon Musk are considered to be the brains of the species. Man has the capability of being great, God like, yet has shown no sign of it in recorded history whatsoever, again, that's my opinion.

9 months ago
Everyday Astronaut
Everyday Astronaut

It didn’t go to Mars. It’s not landing on nor crashing into Mars. I’m sorry you don’t find him brilliant... but factually speaking the man is a genius.

9 months ago
Cesar Caminero
Cesar Caminero

Bro, loving your videos!

9 months ago
Steele
Steele

I really feel like this is no longer the case...

9 months ago
Vault-Tec Rep
Vault-Tec Rep

WOAH YOU JUST COMMENTED!

9 months ago
Everyday Astronaut
Everyday Astronaut

It’s even more the case now than ever. This is specifically about dragon, not about Falcon 9/ Falcon Heavy

9 months ago
David Jessee
David Jessee

What did u think about the falcon heavy? And the twin boosters landing

9 months ago
Everyday Astronaut
Everyday Astronaut

I’ll be making a video all about it!

9 months ago
Coleman Green
Coleman Green

Do you think they’ve ever considered a large net? Would that be cheaper than refurb after salt water landing? If too risky on land they could erect the net over the ocean just in case, but I bet they could hit a net over land.

9 months ago
Coleman Green
Coleman Green

Everyday Astronaut thanks for the reply! I had never heard of their efforts to recover the fairing halves before. Nor did I realize how expensive the fairing was or that it possibly had thrusters and a parachute in each half! I hope we hear about or even see one of these catches soon. And yeah it sounds like if it made sense to catch the dragon with a net they’d be doing it.

9 months ago
Everyday Astronaut
Everyday Astronaut

It’s funny, Elon actually mentioned they could catch their dragon capsule using their mr Stevens fairing net boat if they wanted to!

9 months ago
Coleman Green
Coleman Green

Do you think they’ve ever considered a large net? Would that be cheaper than refurb after salt water landing? If too risky on land they could erect the net over the ocean just in case, but I bet they could hit a net over land.

9 months ago
Me Name
Me Name

Don't doubt this man

9 months ago
Mister Meise
Mister Meise

The astronaut suit doesn’t fit you, you’re a manchild. Just be yourself, you look ridiculous..

9 months ago
Felix Nurwahid
Felix Nurwahid

Mister Meise XD

6 months ago
Twistedwolf2000
Twistedwolf2000

Judging from what I saw yesterday I think they got that propulsive landing down now.

9 months ago
Tom Eason
Tom Eason

Watching this a day after the falcon heavy launch, they've come so far, Elon is the new pioneer of the 21st century and is the first man to make the future of my generations life bright and full of hope instead of scared and worried about conflict and war.

9 months ago

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